tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5476043688166279353.post5794603725093429857..comments2023-09-27T09:34:56.839+01:00Comments on Blackheath Addick: The Season Starts NowBurgundy Addickhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/12203516889598003723noreply@blogger.comBlogger19125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5476043688166279353.post-55377285239947037372015-02-12T22:13:17.270+00:002015-02-12T22:13:17.270+00:00every manager says the same thing blackheath and i...every manager says the same thing blackheath and if they want our support how about the players playing like the professional their meant to be and give us some decent football to watch, not the we can't be ar@sed stuff they've been dishing up!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5476043688166279353.post-73708143798700153322015-02-12T09:51:02.531+00:002015-02-12T09:51:02.531+00:00Anon, don't doubt we're just whistling in ...Anon, don't doubt we're just whistling in the wind. The reported quotes from Luzon after Tuesday included: "... so we need the fans to be with us. It is the only way to carry on and get a result." Pass that one on to our owner.Burgundy Addickhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12203516889598003723noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5476043688166279353.post-20354217319180876802015-02-12T01:06:14.255+00:002015-02-12T01:06:14.255+00:00ok blackheath send your team selection into Roland...ok blackheath send your team selection into Roland and guy along with your thoughts on how we can turn this around and see if you get a reply let alone an affirmative.<br /><br />but the truth is as fans we do have a lot of potential not only to voice our displeasure but to change things. we showed that by being crucial in getting the club back to the valley.<br /><br />if we want things to change why not on mass boycott games but will we do that no!<br /><br />I thought it was a fair sized crowd last night considering the shit performances we've been dishing up these past few months, which goes to show what suckers we are sometimes, that we're prepared to put up with it week in week out!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5476043688166279353.post-7794725404586057352015-02-11T20:22:01.083+00:002015-02-11T20:22:01.083+00:00Thanks again guys. Re LePoint, could well be right...Thanks again guys. Re LePoint, could well be right, I really just don't know. Like the other loan signings, the problem could be lack of match practise, you just don't get guys in who are fully up to speed. <br /><br />Martin, re creative midfielder, and/or a driving box-to-box player, would be desirable, just going on what we've currently got. My guess is that in the loan window more would have come in if we had had offers for some to go. Re the 'big target man', agree not essential, but Hales always benefited from having first Horsfield then Flanagan alongside him (when he went to Derby and had no partner he floundered), as did Clive. <br /><br />Re my views on our owner, they have not changed since last January/February. I am surprised by the speed of the wheels coming off and exposing the shortcomings. I hope the players step up to the mark as they did under Riga (and had done under Powell until last January's debacle). <br /><br /><br />Burgundy Addickhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12203516889598003723noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5476043688166279353.post-78506380000256137262015-02-11T20:10:53.367+00:002015-02-11T20:10:53.367+00:00(Reply from Anon, also didn't publish)
Still d...(Reply from Anon, also didn't publish)<br />Still don't get it do you Ben. I never have or would never boo the team but I still hate RD and the direction he's taking us in. The opposition to him represents a variety of different people opinions and behaviours. Some unaccetable the same as the support. You on one hand are applauding this site where Blackheath Addict and many others have been very critical of RD in the past because he and they care about our club.<br />I't not that simple son, have a think about it. <br />F**k RD COYR <br />Burgundy Addickhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12203516889598003723noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5476043688166279353.post-17354613987878866902015-02-11T20:08:33.970+00:002015-02-11T20:08:33.970+00:00(Sent by Ben, didn't seem to publish so I'...(Sent by Ben, didn't seem to publish so I've copied it in) <br />Well it was all pretty constructive apart from the anon above Blackheath Addick and it makes a refreshing change to read these purposeful posts, but well done that anon, you had to go and spoil it just like the rest of the boo boys and their depressing drivel. Burgundy Addickhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12203516889598003723noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5476043688166279353.post-38785367099386721062015-02-11T20:05:13.820+00:002015-02-11T20:05:13.820+00:00I don't get these calls for a "big target...I don't get these calls for a "big target man" - the effectiveness of such a player is largely mythical, if you ask me. None of our greatest strikers (Leary, Hales, Super Clive, Benty) fit the "big target man" category. What we are crying out for, surely, is a creative midfielder who can read the game, and make things happen. Poyet fulfilled this role last season and probably single handedly ensured we stayed up. I don't see anyone who can step into those shoes now, and that, along with several other factors, leads me to conclude we will be going down this time. We knew when Family Guy was appointed that he had issues with several of our players - Watt, Buyens, Bulot and Ben Haim were mentioned. Can we be surprised that some of those players are now playing so poorly? As far as I can Family Guy has no real credentials in terms of coaching ability. He doesn't seem to know what he is doing in terms of team selection, knowing which are the best players in which position, and utilising his substitutes during a game. Last season Riga gave a masterclass in relegation avoidance. He made it clear who his first choice 11 were, he stuck with those players. He recognised which games were winnable and which games were not. With Poyet in the engine room, and Harriott and Sordell coming good at the death, Riga pulled off the great escape. This season, after all that has happened, after the issues (whatever they were) with Peeters, and the farcical appointment of Family Guy, I can really only see one possible outcome. Looking at the upcoming fixtures, I'm sure most Charlton fans will be fearing giving Wigan and Millwall three points (we've been fans long enough to know this outcome is almost a dead cert.) Add to that, the return of SCP's Huddersfield, and that looks like another defeat to me. Brentford and Derby I am sure will be too good for us. After all that, we really could be on the mire. After the heroics of last season and the optimism of Peeters and the new season, it's hard to credit we are in this position. COYR.<br /><br />Martin CowanAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5476043688166279353.post-86018454045668340392015-02-11T19:58:32.034+00:002015-02-11T19:58:32.034+00:00I think Lepoint had a tough introduction. He came ...I think Lepoint had a tough introduction. He came on with the crowd restless and was desperate to please which lead to a couple of heavy touches for which he's been written off. He is big and strong and makes good use of space. Deserves another go....Davehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01191662363898215747noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5476043688166279353.post-18804608313763841362015-02-11T19:58:31.302+00:002015-02-11T19:58:31.302+00:00I think Lepoint had a tough introduction. He came ...I think Lepoint had a tough introduction. He came on with the crowd restless and was desperate to please which lead to a couple of heavy touches for which he's been written off. He is big and strong and makes good use of space. Deserves another go....Davehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01191662363898215747noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5476043688166279353.post-56183126901615180762015-02-11T19:54:53.758+00:002015-02-11T19:54:53.758+00:00as someone else posted on charlton life it doesn&#...as someone else posted on charlton life it doesn't matter a jot what we as fans think, feel or wish for. it ain't gonna make one iota of a difference to those who make the decisions.<br /><br />what does astound me and I agree with everyone else is how bloody stubborn our managers are in persisting with playing players out of position, I recall it maybe starting with curbs, as he was always fond of players who were " versatile " and its continued on. <br /><br />it's as if, well it hasn't worked the last 99 games but it may work on the one hundredth <br /><br />for christsake are we the only ones who can see this? what the hell do they teach them at managers school, " if playing players out of position doesn't work the first time, try try again "!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5476043688166279353.post-16516893095776520112015-02-11T18:42:25.832+00:002015-02-11T18:42:25.832+00:00Could work MKA. My only concern would be if it too...Could work MKA. My only concern would be if it took a few games of playing that formation to get used to it (and if there wasn't an immediate improvement we switch back again and cause more confusion). I hope Luzon has the good sense to talk to the more experienced players about formation and tactics. Thrash it out with them, decide, and then stick to it. Burgundy Addickhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12203516889598003723noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5476043688166279353.post-982998488276964762015-02-11T17:17:21.668+00:002015-02-11T17:17:21.668+00:00I would advocate 3 5 2, with a back three of TBH, ...I would advocate 3 5 2, with a back three of TBH, Gomez(he MUST play) & Johnson, allowing Solly & Wiggins to do what they do best, go forward. There is an element of risk, with balls played behind our wing backs but Gomez, particularly because of his pace & composure, can nullify that threat. If we don't up our chance creating stats we won't pick up the points we need. This system allows a fluid central three of Jackson Cousins & JBG, with Watt & Vetokele up top. Thus a positive approach from now on, with this set up, that I believe will keep us up. If 4 4 2, I would largely agree with your take on things, albeit TBH for Bikey.MKAddicknoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5476043688166279353.post-44174089153201962642015-02-11T17:09:10.509+00:002015-02-11T17:09:10.509+00:00Joe Gomez. A little while ago Ian Wright was laugh...Joe Gomez. A little while ago Ian Wright was laughing at Charlton, for not playing Francis Coquelin when we first had him. "Charlton they must have been top of the Championship, not to have played him". Now look at what we are doing to one of the best prospects the club has had. The lad will want to go, if you don't give him the chance he deserves and who can blame him. Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5476043688166279353.post-64081566132600413952015-02-11T15:42:29.804+00:002015-02-11T15:42:29.804+00:00Pretty much spot on. My one change from your line...Pretty much spot on. My one change from your line-up would be Gomez for Bikey who has lost his assurance of earlier in the season and looks both too slow and too casual. Centre half for a youngster is possibly a risk against big lump experienced pros, but worth the risk as he is a class actAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5476043688166279353.post-9220823333562179572015-02-11T14:56:19.886+00:002015-02-11T14:56:19.886+00:00Thanks for the comments. Fair points re Gomez, no ...Thanks for the comments. Fair points re Gomez, no question he's impressed so far. When I saw him in the youth cup he was at centre-back, he's covered at full-back and now as a holding midfielder. Just feel I'd still give Cousins the nod close a chapter on him playing out wide. <br /><br />One other thing that's been sadly missing and which needs to return, a smile on the players' faces, some indication that they relish the task and enjoy playing together. Not easy when you're down, but that - not complaining at each other or going into a shell with a hangdog expression - shows character. Burgundy Addickhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12203516889598003723noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5476043688166279353.post-21480372272194292172015-02-11T14:51:57.843+00:002015-02-11T14:51:57.843+00:00Agree re Gomez and he's hardly getting a sniff...Agree re Gomez and he's hardly getting a sniff, yet 19yr olds get chances in the Prem.DisciplineBloghttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03139902804719744134noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5476043688166279353.post-34083544835189362292015-02-11T14:15:22.221+00:002015-02-11T14:15:22.221+00:00Agree almost completely with that team, if I had t...Agree almost completely with that team, if I had to choose one myself that would be it. We need to get back to playing players in their right positions, notably here Cousins and Harriott. I'm not a big fan of Harriott, in the absence of anyone else though he has to start left midfield. My biggest conundrum is Gomez. He is a wonderful player, one of our best based on what little we've seen of him, rarely, if ever, makes a mistake. It does seem daft not to be playing one of our best, and own. We need heart and fight too, time for local talent to shine, they know what we're all about. I feel we need to find a place for him somewhere, could do worse than play him centre midfield at the moment. I loved Buyens we he first arrived, he now looks totally one dimensional and has gone backwards. Still desperately need a big strong target man who can head the ball and hold it up though I'm afraid. Until we do that, I fear the worst. <br />Maidstone AddickAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5476043688166279353.post-25699829456678682622015-02-11T12:50:24.338+00:002015-02-11T12:50:24.338+00:00People mention the 'new coach bounce' and ...People mention the 'new coach bounce' and it seems that the players like TBH and YB that have played for Guy L. before are the ones going backwards. History? They need to start playing for one another as a team, not a bloody network.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5476043688166279353.post-12750629322318030162015-02-11T12:39:39.589+00:002015-02-11T12:39:39.589+00:00I've tried finding fault with your line up but...I've tried finding fault with your line up but can't BA. Suspect that most Charlton fans would agree. Suspect that Luzon won't do this and will prove again why he shouldn't be our manager. <br /><br />The toughest call is centre back. Our strongest position in the early season is now our biggest conundrum. Is Gomes mature enough to start there in a relegation battle? We instinctively feel Johnson must be the fighter we crave in that position, but at the moment we have no idea what he will do in a Charlton shirt. Getting that centre back pairing right may well decide if we stay up.<br /><br />Pembury AddickAnonymousnoreply@blogger.com